Seasons V2

Re-worked it a bit.


Words me; music Suno

https://suno.com/s/qu5NRP06hfPq6lPd


[Verse 1]

Springtime birds at play, during the day

Chirping crickets sing beneath the moonlight

Sprouts to leaves on a newly growing tree

Thick roots grow as transitory time flows


[Verse 2]

Summertime lazy days under sun's rays

Nights glowing campfires, never tire

Shifting warm sands, melt time's hands

Sand castles slowly crawl to fall's call


[Verse 3]

Golden leaves shed trees, the heat flees

Green grass sleeps, the summer sun weeps

Children drift away, as adults toil long days

A corroded cog in machines of dashed dreams


[Verse 4]

Cold winter's breeze, icicled eaves

Fauna slumbers deep, sentiments we keep

Youthful moments past, time now old cast

Seasons slowly shift, soul in shadows drift


[Outro]

Seasons always pass, come and go

Like ocean tides, ebb and flow

Souls are here, then are gone

Lost at night, absent in dawn

In a forest of many familial trees

All since departed, there is, only me

Comments

  • sidshovel
    sidshovel merseyside

    @bhengen Nice one Bill, brought it down to head height for most of us.

    dream-like quality takes you on a journey of changing landscapes and emotions.

    Good choice of music on Suno,

    I liked this one very much,

    Well done,

    Sid

  • @sidshovel - thanks. is it relatable? one of the criticism of my lyrics is they there isn't a connection. I was trying to write it in a way that everybody should be able to connect on some level. but this doesn't seem to be generating anything on Suno.

  • I like V2, I can see the personal progression there in each verse, but understated, not dominating it. Something to find if you look for it.

    Musically, I think Suno really kicks into gear at the Outro, very nice there!

    And the whole feels very accessible to a general audience, at least to me.

  • @RainyDayMan - thanks for the feedback Owen. I'm never sure. :)

  • TammyB
    TammyB Texas

    This melody is perfect for the lyrics, and it's more heartfelt than the other versions. As far as dumbing it down/more relatable for some of us, ummm, ummmm, huh? :-)

    I'm not understanding passing seasons with this line: "corroded cog in machines of dashed dreams."

    Overall, it's still a good heartfelt song.

  • sidshovel
    sidshovel merseyside

    The consequence of your particular genre and art form is that your listeners are often left walking a tightrope! For every one getting to the end there are a dozen who fall off. Nature of the beast I'm afraid. The images you see clearly in your mind very often don't translate to others via words. The medium is too subjective to allow a more narrow interpretation, witness the different options Suno gives you when entering the same lyrics with different prompts!

    Do you compromise or stay true to yourself, a subject for the General Discussion?

    Sid

  • bhengen
    bhengen usa
    edited May 2

    @TammyB - I'm not dumbing it down at all. just writing it in a way that's less cold. One of the main criticisms of my lyrics are that there isn't an emotional connection. "corroded cog in a machine of dashed dreams" isn't so much about passing seasons, but evoking a sentiment within that season. feeling trapped.

  • To conform or not, is the conundrum. But what's interesting, this version is generating less hits than the first version on Suno. so not sure why.

  • sidshovel
    sidshovel merseyside

    @bhengen, Wouldn't read too much into the view numbers Bill. People tend to comment/view less on reissued versions than the originals. That juxtaposition between art for arts sake and popular art is a constant dilemma that experimental artists have always faced.

  • @sidshovel - these are lyrics by Steve Wilson of porcupine trees. I was trying to emulate his style in this song. please let me know if this makes sense -

    Cold windowpane

    A car upturned in the rain

    Wait on in vain

    Don't try to bear the blame

    Deal with the pain

    Dust down your wings again

    You need to clear away all the jetsam in your brain

    And face the truth

    Well, love can make amends, while the darkness always ends

    You're still alone, so drive home

    A pause without end

    A moment in time suspends

    How could she leave?

    Release all your guilt and grieve

    Give up your pain

    Hold up your head again

    You need to clear away all the jetsam in your brain

    And face the truth

    Well, love can make amends, while the darkness always ends

    You're still alone, so drive home

    Drive home, drive home

    Drive home, drive home

    (Drive home, drive home)

    (Drive home, drive home, drive home)

  • TammyB
    TammyB Texas

    oh okay. I misspoke. Ahhh, thanks for explaining the line to me.

    I agree with Sid, when it comes to listeners.

    If you write what you are satisfied with then, it's a win-win.

    If you are trying to sell records/ acquire a publisher, then I would look into more what the overall listeners are saying. It depends on your end goal.

    I love your work. You are not boring and unpredictable, and I can't wait until you drop, drop, drop. :-)

  • sidshovel
    sidshovel merseyside

    Short answer: No, I read the first 6-8 lines as someone in a car crash, upturned car, Next I'm asked to believe he should drive home!

    By nature, I view things/situations from a pragmatic standpoint, i.e. you can't drive an upturned car! Fans of Steve Wilson may argue that in interpreting the lyric, one should suspend logic and blindly accept whatever premise is being advanced. Fine, but the likelihood is that the majority of listeners will just switch off, and move on! To make the song acceptable to a lot more listeners, I believe, it needs to be anchored to more readily acceptable and recognizable elements/situations. As I stated earlier, this is an interesting can of worms that is best discussed in the General Discussions and by others more qualified than I.

  • I interpreted it as someone who has killed his partner in a car crash and is dealing with the consequences. But I don't know if that is correct or not. I wouldn't describe it as clear.

  • That's essentially the feedback I've been given many, many times on that other songwriting forum. essentially drive home is a metaphor for moving on. the song is about dealing with grief and loss

  • bhengen
    bhengen usa
    edited May 2

    That's essentially what it's about. he can say much in few words. I admire that.

  • I'm not a fan of Suno or any AI, or AI products.

  • It doesn't. it could be an old user that created a new account to stir up trouble.

  • sidshovel
    sidshovel merseyside
    edited May 2


    You're on the wrong bus mate!

    Get the Marylebone coach to 9th and Vine

    Get off an' ask directions to Muse Songwriters, they'll make you feel at home.

    Sid

  • You are all entitled to your opinions, but not to derail this thread. This is for feedback on Bill's song. Please stay on track.

    If you feel the need to discuss the issue take it to the General Discussion area, though I would say that typically those kind of discussions go round in circles and achieve nothing.

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