The Hard Problem Of Consciousness
This philosophical and scientific concept is fascinating j to me. Hard to make a song out of it. Guess I did
https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=15060014
I see green trees
and blue skies
I like Tuna subs
and Burger King Fries
I love Dark eyes
and light brown hair
I ask myself questions
whats here and not there
I am who I am
whatever that is
no science cant explain
through rigerous tests
the hard problem of consciousness
it's funny when you fall
tragic when i cry
they call what i do livin
is livin how we die?
I am who I am
whatever that is
science cant explain
through rigerous tests
the hard problem of consciousness
do all these connections
make me aware
is the sponge all there is
or somethin else out there?
I am who I am
whatever that is
no science cant explain
through rigerous tests
the hard problem of consciousness
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This one doesn't grab me. But you have certainly written a song about the hard problem of consciousness!
I do think it's hard to write a song about. As interesting as the concept is, what can you say about something no one understands? All you can do is raise the question in different ways. But I doubt I could do better!
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Thanks, I sometimes challenge myself to write to a difficult title and work from there, usually end up throwing it out. I think the chorus is cool!0
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@Domd – The issue with the song is that most of it has little to do with the hard problem of consciousness. The first two verses are spot on, but then it veers more into general introspection and the "I think, therefore I am" territory.
The melody you chose works well.
However, the crux of the hard problem isn't scientist's lack of understanding of consciousness, but the "why." For instance, I like black because it absorbs light, but I can't tell you the mechanics of why I chose that color over others. This "why" of subjective experience is precisely what defines the hard problem, and can't be rigorously tested, because you can't objectively measure subjective experience itself.
You started out strong, and this could be a really interesting song.
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@behengen, thanks I wrote it fast for fun. Yeah it does meander a bit, the hard problem of consciousness though, is asking why individuals experience what they experience.
Fur example the color green, nobody knows how we see green.
I think you mean subjective experience .. hard problem is why do we have subjective experiences.not objective
how can millions of brain connections make me aware that I'm here. Am I really here at all if that's the case. Also part of the hard problem
I am who I am refers to , I just don't have the answers.
I wrote it trying to describe the results of the hard problem, not define it .
Definitely not perfect , but glad you see potential in it, I kind of like what I have so far, can always tweak it.
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https://youtu.be/ocuYOawo_14?si=HebTZvy8KbiU70qU0
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David J. Chalmers 1995 paper called - facing up to consciousness - Microsoft Word - facing.doc
His discussion on star talk - https://youtu.be/Pr-Hf7MNQV0?si=busxDqXMNr36lGXz
HIs discussion with Brian Green on the World Science Festival talk - https://youtu.be/06-iq-0yJNM?si=gENICJskWCrdrfVN
These are all the discussion where David j. Chalmers who coined the phrase back in 1995 with his paper, then his 1996 book - the conscious mind, which expands on that. both I've read
This has gone off topic, and I'm no longer going to be responding.
But wanted to give you at least the source, so you can better understand the complexity of the hard problem, which cannot be reduced to the simple problem, nor an existential problem.
You have the objective, which is the simple problem which can be quantified, and the subjective, the hard problem, which cannot be quantified,
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I read the lyric, and felt that with the short, simple lyric lines, this was tailor made to create a country song. Maybe Country and a little Southern rock thrown in. I'm not trying to be critical, and I hope you don't take this wrong, but I think this lyric is too good for this music. Just one opinion. and, since this forum is for criticism, and it's not really criticism if we don't say what we think might make the song better, I just think this can become a lot better with a change of genre. Not necessarily the genres I suggested btw.
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@Hardtwistmusic thanks I watch videos on consciousness all the time fan of Deepak and a guy named Donald Hoffman.
It was really a five minute impulse to write it. Literally took longer to do the ai track than it did to write the song
I was thinking this could work as progressive rock, that's a genre that is more wide open.i tried psych rock but didn't feel it.
Country huh? Well modern country anything goes, I think this would be too much for classic country to deal with. Unless I changed it to green trucks, cold beer, cheating wives etc lol
Thanks for your thoughts, didn't expect this to catch anyone's ear0 -
A difficult idea to put to music. Such raw philosophy seems to inhabit other sonic places, even if it isn't true, since I consider everything to be pure philosophy, even if it's not adorned with grandiloquent words. Love and heartbreak are pure philosophy of life; depression is a flower of oneself, even though reality gave its breath for it to grow... Anyway, the truth is that the phrase is catchy the way you've put it to music, and it made me think of a favorite phrase of mine: I didn't know that to live, you had to fall asleep so many times.
Hasta luego
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All that suggests "country" are the short simple lines of lyric. But going against type can create some really interesting outcomes. Good luck.
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