Nicky V Session player , will AI replace him

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  • @ElvisNash - very informative, but I'd much rather eat alone in a white box with my free food, rather than have to tolerate people yammering about nothing whilst trying to eat :)

  • ElvisNash
    ElvisNash Calif
    edited March 10

    You kinda miss the point Bill , Sitting alone in room with AI . Or with session players making tracks in a room.

    There is no human experience with robots . But you're not a musician or singer , So what you do works .

    you can't make jokes with robots , Why you buy that 50k guitar ? You still sound terrible

  • I got his point, just thought that was funny.. I think it was eddie van halen that said it's not the guitar but how you play it.. could be somebody else. not sure.

  • Van Halen could make a 50.00 guitar sound good

  • sidshovel
    sidshovel merseyside

    Thank you for posting that Elvis, very interesting.

    An equally interesting aspect were the comments left by others on the clip.

    What jumped out to me were those comments saying a large volume of the listening public don't care how the songs are generated, they just digest the content. I'm inclined to believe that's true, however disappointing that may be. Session musicians may be facing the same evolutionary path as vinyl records or local beers, quaint and bespoke. The clearly seasoned musician/producer on the clip was genuinely shocked by some of the Ai output and obviously surprised and concerned about how Ai may impact the industry.

    This food for thought is not easily digested!

    Sid

  • ElvisNash
    ElvisNash Calif
    edited April 6

    I'll keep producing tracks with Nicky V and other humans , But yeah Suno is the future I'm afraid and robots taking human jobs .

    lower easier standards I guess , No hard work , just put in prompts

  • TammyB
    TammyB Texas

    @ElvisNash - I was listening to some of the new releases on Spotify and I thought to myself, this song needs AI.

    I was listening to your track with Nicky V and the music is amazing!

    I just found Suno a few weeks ago and it has been great to me for $96/year. I don't think I could get a human to generate over 100 tracks of the same song until I found the right beat. Oh, I couldn't find any at all. :-).

    Listening to a lot of the songwriters' songs on this forum and what they are doing with Suno is unbelievable.

    I still admire humans' talent, though.

  • ElvisNash
    ElvisNash Calif
    edited April 9

    Thats just my preference using humans for building tracks and singing them as the artist

    Suno is a train that won't be stopped and 5 times out of ten they sound better than live players

  • Hey, Ben.

    I've reached out to several publishers, and they have been consistent in saying this:


    1) the song has to be WRITTEN by humans.

    2) the demo needs to sound good if they're gonna pitch it.


    I hear that there are some pubs who are resistant to AI demos for either "protect human jobs" or "the sound quality sucks" reasons, but I haven't actually spoken to any of these publishers yet. Hope that helps.

    God bless,


    Brent

  • You can not pitch AI songs to Nashville publishers . They're worried Nashville and session player would go homeless , its just a toy for lyricists on Suno , works for me

  • @ElvisNash - No hard work on Suno? Just put in prompts? I must be the exception to the rule. It takes me 15 to 20 minutes to write a song, but to compose it in Suno takes hours and sometimes days!! I get so frustrated at times because it doesn't generate what I want and at times I have to buy more credits because I've used all 2500 credits on five songs.

    Bill told me to use ChatGPT for my prompts so that it would make it easier for me.

    Let's give people who use Suno a little more credit. It's not as difficult as working with humans to compose but it does take work if you want it to sound good. :-)

  • AI is here to stay . Working with session players takes a lot of work , Humans or AI its all good with me

  • Can you give me an estimate of the cost of session players? How much time would you say it normally takes to generate a song? I could imagine how difficult it is having to work around everyone's schedule.

  • ElvisNash
    ElvisNash Calif
    edited April 25

    I produce them , meaning lining everyone up , about $400.00 bare bones productions . 2 week turn around time. I spend a week learning song , before I go into the studio on vocals

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